'This Is Us' Music Supervisor Talks Finding 'Out of the Box' Songs
By James Patrick Herman of Variety Magazine
A veteran music supervisor for television and movies, Jennifer Pyken landed her first Emmy nomination for her work on NBC’s “This Is Us.” This native New Yorker-turned-Valley Girl started out as an Island Records intern and continues to showcase her diverse musical range with the Netflix teen comedy, “The Package,” which bowed Aug. 10. This is only the second year that music supervisors have even been eligible for Emmys.
Why do you think it took so long to receive recognition?
People sometimes think of music as an afterthought — but it’s so important. Our guild is fairly new: It’s six years old. So we had to go and explain to them what we do and how much we put into the show and what the process is. And by doing that, they were able to get that as a new category. It took a little bit of work.
What do you consider to be your big break in television?
One of my very first jobs was an MTV show called “Undressed.” That was their first scripted TV show. And it was a five-day-a-week episodic show, which was so much work. … It was kind of boot camp for me. But it was fun because it was so young and hip and MTV was kind of happening at the time.
What are the challenges of finding music for “This Is Us,” a show that plays with time and spans different decades?
We try to be authentic and intimate and organic, and we don’t use overly produced songs on the show. I typically find songs that aren’t necessarily acoustic, but have an acoustic vibe to them. What I’ve noticed is that when you play a super-slick, overly produced song under the show, it doesn’t work because our show is so raw.
What do you consider some of your biggest gets?
There was a George Harrison song — a demo original version of “All Things Must Pass.” I try to find songs that aren’t necessarily the original version, something that’s a little bit out of the box. We’re able to license some of the bigger artists because they love the show and that makes it a lot easier. So the challenges have gotten, over the second season, a lot easier. Bruce Springsteen [was the toughest]. They wanted to know a lot of information about how the music was going to be used. He’s a mega-artist and … it took a lot longer.
How This Is Us's Music Supervisor Creates The Show's Timeless Sound
By Jonathan Shifflett of LAist
In 2017, TV's Emmy Awards introduced a new prize for music supervisors -- those people that choose the songs to help nail a moment and get you swept up emotionally. That means Jennifer Pyken can finally get recognized for her creative contributions, more than 20 years into the business.
Pyken's responsible for both the recognizable and not-so-recognizable songs you hear on This Is Us's soundtrack. Sometimes she even commissions original tracks. Her Emmy nomination came from an episode where the show's teenage character, Kate, has to write a new song -- only it was Pyken who did the legwork.
"We only had two days to do this," Pyken said, "which is a crazy, short amount of time. So we went out to a handful of writers, but one that really stood out was written by Elise Davis, who is based in Nashville."
The narrative style of This Is Us poses a continuity challenge for Pyken, telling the story across several eras, often jumping from the '80s to present day. Solving this, she said, is about understanding each character's musical identity.
"We think about what [teenage] Kate would listen to," Pyken said. "In a previous episode, she's listening to the Pixies in her bedroom, then another episode, she's going to an Alanis Morissette record signing party. So each character has definitely a theme going through it through the whole series."
Pyken's nominated for her work on This Is Us, but her resume goes back to everything from films like Happy Gilmore to shows like One Tree Hill and Felicity.
"It's kind of like I'm representing all the music supervisors for all the hard work for all the years we've put in," she said.
She's licensed legacy artists for This Is Us like George Harrison, Elton John, and Bruce Springsteen, but said she's most proud of her work with indie musicians.
"They're usually the ones that either come by my office or track me down, or come by with a bottle of wine thanking me for something so they can pay their rent, they can make more music, they can be themselves -- it means something to them," Pyken said. "And on top of it, it also helps them get credibility or possibly signed to an indie label."
English musician Bill Fay is one of those artists. He didn't know his cover of Wilco's "Jesus, Etc." had been used in an episode until he watched the show and heard it for himself. He reached out to thank her for using his song.
"I remember reading it in the car with my husband and I started crying, because it was the sweetest thing getting an email from this man," Pyken said. "He's like on the other side of world. I think he lives in the north of England now, and talked a little bit about how much it meant to him and about what was going on in his life."
It's that kind of emotional response that viewers often get listening to Pyken's song selections.